Happy New Year! I'm sorry for not checking in for like... What feels like months? orz I've lost track on how much I've read on Putin-P's blog too so that's a bit inconvenient orz He's been writing about something sports related though in his niconico (like 4 separate blog pages? it's super long and I didn't bother)
I'm okay with the changes so don't worry about me. By the way, about the comment on numtack05's page.. I don't recall any entries about the accident / the computer troubles. Not yet anyway... m(__)m
Or maybe everything's only happening on some guy's PC. (I think I read that one interpretation somewhere)
Errr why is the Illusion Catastrophe page completely empty o_O? The one on the "Songs on part 3" category... Eeer where's the page? n_n
I don't remember all of the openings for each video but.. Sure, let's say that they were uploaded by "someone". But if we go down this path we're going to find some more questions like who's recording it? Who made the music? And stuff like that. n_n It's like?? The fourth wall doesn't exist in this series so..
Ooh well.. Please poke me if there's any news on the translating :o
It's a bit confusing. If we say they're "really happening" then it'd be much more convenient for them to "talk" like in Genkaku. We can say that someone "made" them sing (like Teppy with Miku?) But well.. .... .. Curse you Putin-P logic! D:<
How's the translation going by the way?
We could assume that uploader is Putin-P+Shiuka or Putin-P+illustrator, really qwq Technically IN most of the "videos", Shiuka's name isn't written, only numtack05.. She's credited only in the description.. Maybe there's a reason for that....
Aah not really, I take it as more as decoration XD
Really? I don't know what else you're planning to add over there.
Even HAE's vague on the whole uploader thing, since he's only mentioned a few times. And exactly how many uploaders are there, exactly? ;_; Is Teppy an uploader too? He technically should be since he.. "uploads"..
The art is really pretty to, huh? ^w^ There's also a "character page" by HAE, they distributed this on vom@s too, but I think I've given you the link already? Here (password is soukan) notice how little info there is on the uploader n_n
Yep I just read the Vocaloid page. I hate the fact that (most of) the information on that page is pretty much "implied facts" 8'D but oh well.
Nn? It wasn't Teihen-P and Putin-P, IIRC it was "the uploader" and "Putin-P". I think he's on the same level as Teppannov in my opinion.. I mean, they're "almost" similar owo;. It's just that, we don't really know a lot about him other than the fact that he owns the Vocaloids.
I feel like when the Vocaloids refer to "the uploader", they're really just talking about.. The "uploader", the one who uploaded the video.
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I'm gonna look into this a little bit. Something just caught my attention while looking up HAE stuff. I've never noticed this before, but back on.. Well, a long long time ago on VM9, Putin-P and Shiuka held a SUPER DUPER LONG INTERVIEW with fans. By super duper long I mean, it went for 3 hours. Apparently there's even a "secret episode" / unknown episode on P1, the vaguest Part in the entire series D:
OH SHIT IT'S SO LONG MY EYES THEY'RE BLEEDING PLEASE GET HYPED AND ASK PRICECHECK PLEASE.
PDF link: here (password: penguin)
"Forced to be child soldiers either way" well a'ight 8'( I feel like if Lenin hadn't shot doggy, Irina would've at least "try" to run away from that place. I feel like doggy actually knocked some sense into her in a way.
lol well if you remember just tell me, I guess? 8')
Would they've been child soldiers if they weren't drugged? Or are drugs the only way for them to be happy? That's what I wanna know.. When Irina said "I'll stop taking drugs", what does she really mean by that? She'll stop fighting? (that makes more sense) or.. Has she found happiness so she doesn't "need" drugs..
please rest/
Some guy asked "what's the next series gonna be like" and that's what Putin-P said. Muay thai Rin (I posted it in numtack05's page;;) do what?
OOOOOHHHHH that makes lots of sense. There's a bunch of viruses and.. Yeah, I've never thought of it that way. I don't know if it's considered as a reference or.. Well. It's definitely not coincidence..
..I don't think there's any proof >w> Ronald being in Russia is er.. Can we use the word "implied" instead 8') In the real world, McDonald IS there during that time. (barely, anyway.) It's easier to imply that Ronald's the drug dealer than, I don't know "another character" doing that job. I mean, we "can" say that Putin wants someone to drug the children THIS SENTENCE IS TOO WRONG, but a drug dealer "should" meet face to face with their customers, imo. >w> And who else fits the job than Ronald in this series..
Proof.. Let's see.. Is the Ronalds in Stealing is Wrong not strong enough as proof? orz
Even though I feel like that's something Putin-P made on a whim, I still want it to be a thing... n_n Yeah, but there are thousands(?) of comments, so looking it up at the side is annoying..
How are they a reference exactly? That's just who they are right? I mean the titles are so perfect with their roles, so...
He's a heartless(?) murderer, so killing a dog on a whim makes more sense to be honest. How else / when else did Ronald deceive the children? He's a drug dealer in the present time, I don't see why he couldn't be one in the Russia era too. owo He might still lie to children with them ads.. qwq /shot
...There's always that muay thai thing Putin-P had in mind that one time n_n
Yeah Nico Nico Douga's great and all, but the comments flying through the video feels.. I dunno, it feels like they're just shouting whatever comes to mind. So it's not really reliable. There are some real long comments though, but I never bother reading them 'cause they float by pretty fast 8D
If he's a traitor, the other children following him should've like... Reacted, right? o_O They cheered him on despite the scarf reveal..
What goes beyond interpretations, exactly..? making a wiki?
It really, really looks like Meiko.. But maybe it's just me n_n A lot of people shouted "Gakupooo" when that scene came up though. Well.. I guess they're talking about Lenin but...... n_n; Or ARE they..? I wish there was another discussion forum, reading over comments on NND feels weird (have never tried looking up interpretations from YouTube before, so I don't know about that) PULL IT? Really? Great.. It can't be unheard.. now.. orz
When Rin's addressing "Vocaloid" in Goodbye to You, there's the Hatsune Miku Vocaloid package, so.. Hnn.. So when she was still Teppy's singer, she was.. "Miku", like the old red text her? If I can't source it I don't feel so sure---
I think it's weird that HAE would group Miku with Putin. How can they be in more places than one..? hhhh >_>
Something like that. I'm not sure if his "teammates" chased him, maybe they were just around the area? Eerr.. Why not.. Both? Can we go with both? The dog stole the scarf yada yada so he was exposed as.. a "traitor". .... But yeah, he's not really a traitor, is he? n_n His scarf was stolen and he shot a dog, big deal.
In Mirror> Len doesn't really understand the situation with the scarf either, huh? n_n
Scratch that, I can't find the post about "Miku" and "Hatsune Miku". ..Instead I got a crazier interpretation post titled "is Hatsune Miku protecting the Putin-P World". n_n;; whyyy
Technically there's the "Hatsune Miku" in the Russia Era too (even though we have little information of her.. Apparently HAE groups "Hatsune Miku" with Putin because they're available in both "eras".. huh. o_o)
I don't know any Putin-P Series fanfics.. I'd rather read interpretations ;w;//
Not necessarily "all" of them.. Maybe just the ones in that one scene? The chanting of the children in Stealing.. I can't make out the words.. So as Dog died a bunch of children were.. Chanting and cheering Lenin on. I feel like the more canon information we get, the sadder this series becomes.. WE MUST STOP BEFORE THIS SERIES BREAKS US FURTHER
HAE treat "Hatsune Miku" and the "Miku" in the series as different people. I've never really mentioned this before because.. The situation is a bit complicated (but now that we have pricecheck's translation I should go check it out..) IIRC Miku uses different subjects whenever she refers to "Hatsune Miku" and "herself" (even though in Japanese if there's no "subject" in the sentence by default it's "I").. What I'm saying is that the situation with Miku and Ronald (and the others, really) is similar. There's "Hatsune Miku" and the "Miku" in the series. There's a "Ronald McDonald" and the "Ronald" in the series. As a bonus, there's also the "drug effect Ronald"; the "cameo" you see when someone's on drugs. That's my take on the Ronalds anyway. There shouldn't be any more than these right??
Oh he wrote a blog post not too long after Goodbye to You came out, but no mention of the girl or Len at all. I think you know this already but he said some stuff about it's "impossible" for someone to reincarnate. No one commented about the other girl too, what the hell guys?? o_O (he said he welcomed questions) is the other girl just too invisible to see, or is it just too obvious it's not worth mentioning her??
Aah technically they're all bad people. Who're the good people during the Russia Era anyway? The purest one in that arc is the Dog lol
How convenient. HAE has a whole paragraph explaining the red/yellow situation so I don't really need to look at other stuff (at the moment)
HAE's take on the situation (where Lenin shot the dog) is that the Ronald surrounding Lenin is actually the children (the other comrades) who were "on drugs". (wow this explains our previous discussion on how Irina killed her comrades o_O like, did she track them down and stuff.. when in truth they ALL watched Dog died.. And huh the SFX of children too explains it.. Or maybe I'm just not paying attention lol)
The yellow scarf is trademark of Irina's.. "Group". Additionally (damn it this is a good point curse you HAE) Kagamine Rin in P1 wears a yellow scarf (her sailor ribbon) as well.
Then HAE's talking about the red scarf and.. Symbolism and stuff.. And communists.. And Ronald.. And blood.. I'm gonna skip this part.
>Len just used him as a prop to make Rin happy
wow, if you put it that way... n_n;; He doesn't really deserve it too. Sure he's a "bad" guy but I mean.. Wow. Well. RIP Camui we'll forever remember you forever and.. yea.
To be honest I still have trouble with the Vocaloid/Android thing. Throughout the series they keep calling themselves Vocaloid and.. The definition of Vocaloid in the Putin-P World and "our" world is different, that's how I've always assumed it is. Vocaloid=Android or Vocaloid=/=Android?
I feel like in this fandom "shot" has a very special meaning /shot
From screenshot it looks like the yellow scarf IS covering the red one. If it IS this way then.. The dog stole the yellow scarf, he "gave" it to Irina, Lenin (now with his red scarf revealed) shot the dog, Irina saw that he's a traitor with the red scarf and stuff, and.. Yeah.
It doesn't make sense that he'd wear the yellow symbolic scarf out in the open if yellow IS Ronald's trademark. I know that Irina's off somewhere but, his other comrades should be there with him around the area too. Let me check HAE's take on this.. I'll be back-
hnn "Jama Shinaide" much qwq That makes sense.. It's kinda.. Not worth it though, since in the end we don't know what happened to him. Miku too but, well.. The ending's a mess.. So... n_n
If you're gonna go from the scratch, what're you planning to put in the Vocab page? owo The more links to this wiki, the better!! 8D
Yep it's made by Putin-P fans owo/
I get that P4 would be boring if he's not there (well, Kowareta Kagami's my fav song in P4 at the moment), but damn.. n_n If Rin's gonna disappear anyway I don't see why Camui should interfere there.
That's really fast, you've finished that page?? 8'D Ohh? I'm not really planning on editing the Putin-P Series page in the Vocaloid wiki, I'm talking about.. Hinata Haruhana's Nazotoki/Nazokake page XD ('cause that's the wiki I'm maintaining right now, and her Vocaloid wiki article is.. Well. Horrid.)